Sunday, May 4, 2014

No Luck Needed: An Interview with Charles Butler

“You aren’t a human,” begins one of the top comments on Charles Butler‘s YouTube cover of Daft Punk‘s “Get Lucky.” “You are a Banjo god!” It’s one of nearly a thousand comments on the video, which has seen over 1.7 million views since it was uploaded a year ago. On the surface the rendition seems unlikely, featuring the traditionally bluegrass and jazz-focused musician taking on an electro-pop chart-topper, but in explaining the video via email, Butler says the cover isn’t much of a stretch. “I am a Daft Punk fan, and was excited when Random Access Memories came out. ‘Get Lucky’ was stuck in my head, so I had a feeling I could make it work.” It’s even less of a stretch when considering the sort of music the Youngstown, Ohio native grew up with. “I used to bounce on the couch to ‘Electric Avenue‘ and ‘Abracadabra,'” he says, reflecting on a childhood listening to his father’s sound system. “His enthusiasm for a good jam rubbed off on me.”

From an early age Butler took an interest in music, learning the mountain dulcimer at 12 before receiving a banjo for Christmas when he was 14. It was around this time that his family relocated to Vermont. A year later he “found a teacher and learned a few actual tunes.” While still attending high school in Burlington, Butler studied under the Emmy Award-winning instrumentalist Gordon Stone, but upon graduation he set his sights on The Big Apple. “I ended up studying at SUNY Purchase because they would take a banjo player into their jazz program. Actually, they created a major for me, and plugged Tony Trischka lessons into my curriculum, which was exactly what I asked for.” “It was a great time to be there,” continues Butler. “I used to play with Langhorne Slim and Regina Spektor. We all graduated together.”

After graduating, Butler looked for a change of scenery as an alternative to the cramped nature of living in New York. “I was curious about Nashville, so I drove down here and never left.” That was over a decade ago. Since moving south, the banjoist has developed a group of “interstellar bluegrass voyagers” who perform as Charles Butler & Associates, though it’s his role as a teacher that might have led to last year’s YouTube success. “If I remember correctly, my brother Henry submitted it to [Reddit’s banjo page], where my student saw it. My student then posted it to [Reddit’s music page], which is a much bigger pond.” That thread has received nearly 1700 up-votes since being posted last May, spurring numerous high profile outlets to pick the video up.




“Banjo player extraordinaire Charles Butler gave the electronic beat a little bluegrass twang with his surprisingly catchy banjo cover,” wrote The Huffington Post, two days after the Reddit posting. As Butler’s video took off, he teamed with Beats Antique to release another collaborative rendition of “Get Lucky,” blending his banjo with the Oakland-based collective’s electronic-fusion of Eastern and Western styles. “The final product was finished and posted online all of five days after my video,” says Butler. The resulting track has since been played nearly 300,000 times on Soundcloud.

As for how any of last year’s success has affected his career, “not much has changed, really.” Butler still teaches and continues to play live, moving forward with his enthusiasm for a good jam while having gained a newfound gratitude following his brush with fame. “There are so many musicians out there who don’t get recognition, for a moment the light shined on me and it felt great.”

Extended Q&A


Are you originally from Burlington? Do you remember how you were first introduced to music?

Charles Butler: I am originally from Youngstown, OH. I moved to Burlington, VT when I was 14. My dad had an impressive sound system when we were growing up, I used to bounce on the couch to “Electric Avenue” and “Abracadabra.” His enthusiasm for a good jam rubbed off on me.

When did you first start to recognize that you wanted to pursue the banjo?

Charles Butler: My first stringed instrument was the mountain dulcimer, my parents got that for me when I was about 12. Eventually I wanted something with more range, but not a guitar. My friends had guitars, I wanted to play something more exotic. I acquired the banjo one Christmas at age 14, a year later I found a teacher and learned a few actual tunes. The momentum built from there, playing music became way to much fun to seriously consider doing anything else full time.

How did you become aware of Tony Trischka, and did studying in New York affect how you approached playing your instrument?

Charles Butler: I first heard Trischka on the Violent Femmes track “Country Death Song,” the banjo drops in at about 1:00 and I remember getting really pumped every time I heard that. In New York I studied with some great jazz players which suited me perfectly as I have always felt closer to jazz than to bluegrass.

Was NY supportive of the music that interested you most? Were there any collaborators you worked with during this time that helped direct your playing style?

Charles Butler: I ended up studying at SUNY Purchase because they would take a banjo player into their jazz program. Actually, they created a major for me, and plugged Tony Trischka lessons into my curriculum, which was exactly what I asked for. It was a great time to be there, I used to play with Langhorne Slim and Regina Spektor, we all graduated together.

What led you to relocate to Nashville?

Charles Butler: NYC is an expensive place to exist, I wanted more space and a better way to transport my gear to and from gigs. I was curious about Nashville, so I drove down here and never left.

Your music has been called “newgrass”… Do you feel you’re trying to introduce a modern flavor into a traditional sound?

Charles Butler: No, I am just playing the way I feel, not going for anything in particular. I am always amazed at the emphasis placed on playing traditionally, to me it would be odd to stick to what’s been done by other people.

Daft Punk is outside the norm in terms of covers on your YouTube channel — what led you to take on “Get Lucky“?

Charles Butler: I am a Daft Punk fan, and was excited when Random Access Memories came out. “Get Lucky” was stuck in my head, so I had a feeling I could make it work. Fortunately it was in a banjo friendly key.

A student of yours submitted the video to Reddit is that how it first began spreading?

Charles Butler: If I remember correctly, my brother Henry submitted it to r/banjo, where my student saw it. My student then posted it to r/music, which is a much bigger pond. The way the post was phrased, something like “check out my banjo teacher playing Get Lucky” was much more conducive to success on Reddit than something that I would have written for myself. It was endearing.

How did you react to its popularity?

Charles Butler: There are so many musicians out there who don’t get recognition, for a moment the light shined on me and it felt great. I celebrated.

Is there anything you would have done differently to prepare for the attention to retain or gain more listeners?

Charles Butler: At the time, I was giving my music away for free on my website, in retrospect, I should have had it up for sale on iTunes. I’ve since remedied that.

When did the Beats Antique project begin and what was the goal of that collaboration?

Charles Butler: David Satori of Beats Antique was a member of my high school band Bubble Tribe, and a dear friend. We had collaborated live before, but this seemed to be the perfect opportunity to mash up what we do in the studio. My contribution was recorded here in Nashville by Marc Lacuesta about three days after the wave started.

The Beats Antique team worked on it through the night in San Francisco, and the final product was finished and posted online all of five days after my video. It’s worth mentioning that neither Beats Antique or I have ever sold our versions of “Get Lucky,” they are all free to download.

How has the video’s popularity benefited you professionally?

Charles Butler: Not much has changed, really.

What can artists do to better prepare themselves online in the event that lightning strikes, as it did for you?

Charles Butler: Have somewhere to direct people that will benefit your career.

Also, this is sort of off-­topic, but I just wanted to confirm that you’re a comic book artist as well (or that this is your work). Sort of an Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind theme going on there — I really like the visuals!

Charles Butler: Yeah, that’s me!